On a Macbook w Qbit, what's best: Proton VPN (with binding only) vs PIA (binding and port-forwarding) for torrenting?

I changed from PC to Mac, and learned the oft-lamented fact that there is no in-app option for P-forwarding available for Mac, as there is for PC.

A Proton rep/agent wrote on the Proton sub regarding Qbittorrent: “Binding your torrent client to Proton VPN is sufficient for it not to use a P2P connection outside the VPN tunnel.”

I am quite the novice and have requested a little more info from the Proton rep, but in the meantime I would appreciate the opinions of more knowledgable persons on what you would think is best: re-invest in the less trusted PIA (but no RAM servers) with an in-app port-forward option combined with binding Qbit to it, or bind the more trusted Proton (with RAM servers) without in-app port-forward?

Thanks in advance

Neither - go with AirVPN for proper port-forwarding. You can bind it as well as any other VPN to qBittorrent.

PS. RAM servers is a marketing gimmick, not superior to trip-wired hard storage and mostly irrelevant for the torrenting threat model. You’re giving it too much importance.

Thanks very much, I forgot about AirVPN. If that’s better than PIA, then that sounds great. Have you used them for a long time?

Yes, I had thought RAM servers were important to ensure no data was logged. Thanks for clearing that up. What is trip-wired hard storage?

As a first time very noob who just made the setup for torrenting with AirVPN this week, I agree with this comment. Proton might be easier for setup, but I took AirVPN due to the halloween price, and I had to start somewhere so, I started this one.

Have you used them for a long time?

AirVPN is one of the oldest players in the industry. Older is better/trustworthy then it comes to VPNs.

Yes, I had thought RAM servers were important to ensure no data was logged. Thanks for clearing that up. What is trip-wired hard storage?

Not really, even with RAM servers you can still have network logging or fetch IP addresses from OpenVPN console for example. What you want from a VPN is a legal barrier backed up by technical infrastructure, in which they cannot connect IP addresses to customers. This is not easy to verify (closest might be an audit) but in the end always boils down to trust. What provides trust? Clean track record, long history of operations, activism, transparency/open-source, etc.

You can read this for more information: https://www.reddit.com/r/VPNTorrents/comments/rikthc/list_of_recommended_vpns_2022/

I tried both and went proton because it was so much faster in the US (CA).

Thank you for the info, much appreciated.