If you're using mobile data with a VPN, T-Mobile will count that toward your hotspot data and throttle you once it's all used up. They do not mention this anywhere in their Terms and Conditions. (I use express VPN)

I would take a look at access point names and maybe making a clone of the T-Mobile APN then just name it something different and where you see all of the three-letter abbreviations in a square box, just put in… dun, … That’s DUNcomma …anywhere in that string. All of a sudden now you have hotspot even if you don’t have hotspot on your plan. People have been doing that with Metro for years. Metro does not offer any hotspot data on the $25 plan.

Nope, I use Android, no slowdown here either.

Not just hot spots, but full on modem/router combos complete with external high gain antennas mounted onto an RV; to become a $10/mo. ISP for people’s RV’s providing hundreds of gigs of data as a “tablet”!

Er… so I’ve heard. Just a rumor.

ATT and Verizon both use specific data network paths and traffic inspection to determine hotspot traffic. It’s why if you make a virtual network adapter and try to share the higher priority phone data, ATT will put the kibosh on you unless you hide traffic in a tunnel.

T-Mobile is the only carrier pretty much exclusively checking TTL.

ATT shifts suspect SIMs through a transparent proxy that works to throttle unpermitted hotspot usage.

Pretty sure only android, iPhone has different framework and is honestly a lot more robust in the networking department. You lose a lot of freedom for that reliability, though.

Yes, this is an esim bug, get a physical sim.

I was dealing with a similar bug on US Mobile GSM 5G esim and ended up swapping my second line to a physical SIM. Had their rep report it to T-Mobile.

Well, their network management practices are not lining up with their stated practices from ToS, even if it’s a bug, it’s a bug exclusive to them that impacts end users. This could be a lawsuit, possibly.

Yes, I know why it happens. :blush: thanks for the explanation for those who may not know.

This is exactly the angle that I’m seeing it from at this point, based on everything I’ve read.

T-Mobile can’t make the app developers fix their apps. This only happens with certain VPN apps.

I reported that my hotspot was counting as used but didn’t know why. Guess it was the switch to the new phone and eSim. Frustrating that tech support didn’t know what the issue was and never got back to me, but guess since i just got “you’ve used 100% of hotspot texts I can call back with this info!”

Doesn’t happen on my Pixel w eSIM.

Does not count as hotspot.

I have esim and psim same issue

If anyone happens to rumor me a link, or instructions to my inbox that would be awesome lmao

Edit:Also I need to be UNVERIFIED as an employee

They also use ipv6 to see it, for example if you use the DUN method in your APN, it won’t fool the system unless you do IPv4 only.

“here goes your 87 cents sir”

It’s a TTL issue, it’s nominal behavior to have a VPN add -1 TTL because ITS A HOP. Yall need better packet inspection for this shi or I guarantee there will be a disadvantage for T-Mobile in the ftc and fcc since they’ve already been messing up so bad lately. T-Mobile as a whole needs to get it together idgaf about excuses, it’s cause yall lazy and use TTL to try to determine what’s hotspot and what’s not WHEN THE PHONE CAN REPORT IT ITSELF cause I don’t mind modifying my TTLs via a script, I’ll happily get me a true unlimited hotspot and put it all over a vpn connection I am built different like that my boi I’m done with yall playin games

The fact that they weren’t even aware of this glitch when I called them is pretty frustrating. And it’s not the first time I’ve called them about it this year!