If you're using mobile data with a VPN, T-Mobile will count that toward your hotspot data and throttle you once it's all used up. They do not mention this anywhere in their Terms and Conditions. (I use express VPN)

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i use Nordvpn and ~120gbs a month, on an iPhone I don’t notice any slowdown. only android?

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Doesn’t seem to be an issue for me

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This is a code due to sloppy android coding. I don’t have this on my 15PM

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it a bug on samsungs using eSIM only on TMO with crappy podcast-sponser VPNs.

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Get rekt nice hotspot

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Sounds like a new class action lawsuit.

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Uh, no shit, duuuuh. You’re still, you know…USING data. FFS.

UNLESS you mean using the VPN directly on your phone and it’s counting as hotspot instead of normal data. In which case that’s actually an issue with the VPN software not registering correctly on the phone.

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Yep, there are certain hotspots that can have their IMEI and TTL changed to become “tablets” lol

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Android eSIM bug, or T-Mobile eSIM bug affecting Android users?

I don’t see this happening with AT&T or Verizon and they both use TTL to detect hotspot.

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Does this affect iPhone eSIM as well? Or only android?

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Indeed, I do exactly this with Netgear hotspots. Can’t seem to get them to pick up n41, however, so I just use them on AT&T and Verizon since they pick up n77 just fine.

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I am using an eSIM! I’m glad to hear it’s probably unintentional, because I was pretty surprised

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It all has to do with a thing called TTL (Time To Live) that basically is a measurement of “hops” that traffic goes through to reach the internet at large.

As an example, phone to internet, there is only one hop so the systems recognize it as native data, but phone to VPN to Internet is two hops, just like hotspot to phone to internet. So unless the phone is accounting for this internally in software, the system can’t tell the difference and labels it all as hotspot data.

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I have a Samsung device, is there a solution?

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Are we sure it isn’t intentional at this point? If they are aware of the issue and haven’t taken steps to fix it, and this issue is exclusive to them because of the way they handle detection, then it is their fault, intentional through negligence.

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I put in a ticket the other day! Hopefully, more people report it

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Doesn’t affect iOS or Android devices with physical Sim cards.

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Are you saying if using WireGuard, the data using while using it doesn’t get counted?

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Makes no difference of esim or psim for me on any line

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yeah, it seems that, from what others have been saying, the eSIM on my Galaxy S23 is likely the culprit