I would like to know how’s data managed and protected because this start to be a monopoly and all data is going to US servers, or how does it work?
Starlink is already approved for sale in France so I expect that any EU concerns on data privacy are already addressed.
Data using secure transport protocols is protected regardless of who transports it.
Data is not going to US servers.
Get a VPN if you care. Definitely not sending all data to the Us as that would be crazy slow.
Learn about TLS and DNS.
In Canada, we are told that where ever the server is, is subject to the laws of that land not the one you are accessing it from.
My bank stores information in the states so it is subject to their laws and rules which I’m not a fan of for obvious reasons.
I wonder if that means all of Star Alliance will have it? That includes Delta and KLM
Starlink satellites are glorified repeaters… data goes to ground station, then a fiber run or sat uplink to a local ISP?
Still need to store data in the EU which is probably what they are doing.
Yeah that’s not how Starlink works. The data doesn’t go to the US unless you’re flying over the US (or nearby it).
Also further, people misunderstand what VPNs even do. Your data is already encrypted (most VPN providers lie by omission about this) for any normal traffic you do. VPNs don’t add any further encryption.
The “real” purpose of VPNs is if you’re using very crappy corporate/government software with poor security as it was written decades ago, VPNs were invented to create a “virtual private network” as if you were still logged in from your desk inside the office inside their intranet that’s not accessible from outside. This creates a single entry point that is easier to secure rather than exposing the company’s internal servers to the internet.
The VPN term later got abused by companies basically creating encrypted proxy services and labeling them VPNs. What these “new” VPNs do is basically change the location of where you’re logging in from. That’s all. They don’t offer any further security for normal internet traffic use. Meanwhile they vacuum up all the metadata of what sites you’re accessing (and depending on how they’re written possible install traffic spying that bypasses your OS’s encryption facilities) and possibly sell that all to advertisers.
Why would all of star alliance follow?
KLM more likely, seeing as it is the same company…
Star Alliance is Lufthansa and co. Air France is SkyTeam.
They are definitely not glorified repeaters considering they have the capacity to do IP routing, and likely software defined routing decisions onboard.
Well they work pretty good, don’t they!
What do you expect?
Ultimately your AWS / Azure datacenters are on the ground…
If you can run datacenters in space, then you don’t need ground stations.
Nope. Not a local ISP. Starlink system is your (not so local) ISP. As any other good ISP it’s then connected to the backbone. There’s no more some other ISP in the picture (unless it’s on the other end of some particular connection).
Your data is already encrypted (most VPN providers lie by omission about this) for any normal traffic you do. VPNs don’t add any further encryption.
Correct.
Meanwhile they vacuum up all the metadata of what sites you’re accessing
Ahhh, so you do acknowledge that your ISP (The VPN service effectively becoming your ISP) can spy on your metadata.
If you’re really paranoid about Starlink hoovering up data, then use a VPN (and every major VPN has a third-party regularly audit that they aren’t retaining any logs/data).
Jesus, what VPN software have you been using? Legitimate VPNs don’t work at all the way you describe them. They don’t sell your data, in fact, most try very hard not to even log anything about you. I use NordVPN and it is one of the best VPN services out there. They don’t track anything you do. They don’t sell your data.
Also, what you said about data already being encrypted, though not entirely incorrect is also not the whole picture. Many legitimate services do encrypt data. But there are also many that don’t. And one big benefit of VPN is that the provider of Internet can’t know what you’re doing with the Internet service. If you don’t use a VPN on Air France, they know what sites you’re visiting or what you’re downloading, regardless of payload. Maybe you don’t care, maybe you do.
Note: if using Apple devices and you subscribe to iCloud services then they provide a service called Private Relay that hides who you are and what you’re doing, so this is an alternative to paying for a VPN. However, there are things Private Relay can’t do, like if you specifically want to pretend you’re using Internet in Florida but you’re actually in London and you want to watch Netflix, then Private Relay won’t help you.
Jesus, what VPN software have you been using? Legitimate VPNs don’t work at all the way you describe them. They don’t sell your data, in fact, most try very hard not to even log anything about you. I use NordVPN and it is one of the best VPN services out there. They don’t track anything you do. They don’t sell your data.
Also, what you said about data already being encrypted, though not entirely incorrect is also not the whole picture. Many legitimate services do encrypt data. But there are also many that don’t. And one big benefit of VPN is that the provider of Internet can’t know what you’re doing with the Internet service. If you don’t use a VPN on Air France, they know what sites you’re visiting or what you’re downloading, regardless of payload, and Air France will definitely be interested in selling your data to make a few extra bucks and get to know their customers more. Maybe you don’t care, maybe you do.
Note: if using Apple devices and you subscribe to iCloud services then they provide a service called Private Relay that hides who you are and what you’re doing, so this is an alternative to paying for a VPN. However, there are things Private Relay can’t do, like if you specifically want to pretend you’re using Internet in Florida but you’re actually in London and you want to watch Netflix, then Private Relay won’t help you.